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Feb
10

Here’s a AH story from a fellow reader

hello I H AH!

since your blog is in english, i’ll reply in english.

well, what can I say… I hate them too, but as often there is no choice, I do shop there.

over the years I’ve had a fair share of arguments with “supermarket managers” about:

-dirty shelves, floors etc.
-products not being available
-uneadible products – just too grose to eat (minced meat is a good example)

but the worst of all is this:

when I go and do my groceries after work, around 17.00, THERE IS NO MORE BREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WFT?!?!?!

a supermarket is supposed to have bread – ALWAYS –

they’re open for another 3 hours, and have run out of bread!!!

I really cannot stand that. So last time I went to see the supermarket manager, gave him my basket full of stuff and told him that AGAIN there is no bread, I will now go and get my groceries some place else. Asshole.

Anway. I must say that there is a BIG difference in AH stores in “the west” and in small towns.
I live in “the middle-east” of the Netherlands and stores there are A LOT cleaner, staff are MUCH friendlier.
But I work in Amsterdam and shop there regularly and so I know exactly what you mean.

Keep up the good work with your blog!

Rgds

w3ssen

PS – have I mentioned their meats, especialy the MINCED MEAT is absolutely DISGUSTING! I always buy my meat some place else!!!


34 Responses to “Here’s a AH story from a fellow reader”


  1. 1 GvK
    February 9, 2010 at 12:19

    O my,

    what a wonderful life you must have if this is your biggest problem..

    dork

  2. 2 Kees Klinker
    February 9, 2010 at 12:25

    Oh boy !

    That is looking worse than we experienced 20 years ago in the DDR, when the fucking Soviets ruled our part of Germany…

  3. 4 furlemonde
    February 9, 2010 at 12:36

    ..I love you
    You’re the best that internet has provided, ever.

  4. 5 Donnie
    February 9, 2010 at 12:37

    it is indeed true that the meat from AH tastes like it has been killed too long ago and kept in a warm moist enviroment just to make it taste even worse….
    i don’t live in Amsterdam but we have the same problems with AH.
    i can’t choose to go to another store because there isn’t any other store near my home.
    i work all day so i can’t go shopping before 18:00 and i can NEVER get any bread….
    and when they do have bread it’s disgusting leftovers that no sensible person ever would buy…. if i want to return empty bottles they don’t have a machine but i have to press a bell and wait for hours until someone comes and counts my bottles…. how crappy is that!!!!
    when you look at the scale were you need to weigh the vegetables… wow… now that is disgusting!!! that thing is over a 100 years old and has never been cleaned… so when you pick out some veggies and weigh them. why not whipe your ass with them too. they can’t get any more rancid…
    for me it makes no difference that i put the vegetables in a bag. that thing is so filthy the vegetables are uneatable to me when they even come near that scale.
    i hate AH

  5. 6 mark
    February 9, 2010 at 12:38

    hi there,

    well, I have to say, AH does have some problems now and then, but is still better than the rest. Only if you look at the salaries and secondary conditions, innovation (who started microwave food? Pre sliced lettuce? paying without a cashier? An more), AH is very good in comparison with others.

    and the dirty floors? not edible meat? empty shells? all because of yourself. Let me explain:

    People run to another supermarket as soon as it is only one cent cheaper. That has been proven throughout the time. And because of that, there is less money for cleaning, you get crapy meat, and empty shells.
    • If bonus products are left over at the end of the week… cost money.
    • good meat? they have (not the same as the butcher, I admit) but for a slightly higher price you have better than the standard. which obviously you don’t want to pay.
    • No bread at the end of the day? because it is fresh, so al leftovers nee to been thrown away=money.
    • dirty floors? keep them clean cost money.
    It is all because of money. because of the low prices only 16 year old’s can be hired. who don’t give a shit. result= a mess. And other than the rest of the supermarkets, AH keeps strictly to the rules concerning ages, which is a good thing, but cost money.

    By the way, if you ask friendly, they will bake a bread for you in the evening. And you can get a coupon for a bonus, so you can get it another time for the same price.

    So what you obviously want is another price war, exactly what caused this all, because it was really better before. and what you are doing is just so easy, and can be done at any supermarket.

  6. 7 BdeVries
    February 9, 2010 at 12:40

    Why dont you just go to another supermarket?

  7. 10 Bart
    February 9, 2010 at 12:41

    AH heeft enkele jaren terug zijn best gedaan om flink op kosten te besparen en en passant een hoop middenkader te lozen. Nu rent er een korps aan minimumjeugdloners (aka kinderarbeid) rond die het geen fuck interesseert. Waarvan akte in de winkel en aan de kassa. Personeel dat nog ergens toe bereid is stamt nog uit de tijd toen AH nog voor kwaliteit stond. Klagen bij supermarktmanagers is zinloos, ze hebben toch geen tijd.
    De afname van kwaliteit van diverse huismerk producten is al jaren aan de gang. Het is me opgevallen toen de hamburgers van prima burger naar vette lap zijn getransformeerd, ongeveer 10 jaar geleden inmiddels schat ik. Daarna zijn oa de sugo(tomatensaus) (lijkt haast ranja zo zoet), pindakaas, AH brouwers bier, biologische vanillevla om er maar een paar te noemen gevolgd. Allemaal verworden van lekker naar vlakke, vaak zoete, troep.
    Tel daarbij op dat een mandje al snel 50 treuro kost. Ik ben om en haal de meeste (vers)producten voortaan elders.

  8. 11 Wim Heitinga
    February 9, 2010 at 12:43

    Smile, you’re on Geenstijl!

    • 12 De echte Wim Heitinga
      February 9, 2010 at 15:47

      I came to the AH at the Van Woustraat once and I really had to go to the toilet. And guess what? They didn’t want to let me go! I always go to the toilet somewhere else now. Screw them!

  9. 13 consumer
    February 9, 2010 at 12:45

    Good initiative!
    I agree on all points mentioned.
    AH rips off other product manufactures by first having their products in the store and over time replace them wiht their own brand. Then there is no choice anymore in products.
    For example milk products. You hardly can find other brands anymore then their own.
    Bread indeed is a real disaster, too.
    AH is introducing more and more plastic at products. Look at their new invention, the packaging of their own milk with a plastic closing button and at the side the plastic window to see how much is left.
    Then the disaster to find out about products like for example cheese. Nobody at the counter for cheese can give you any information then that on the product.
    The people who are busy filling the shells are very rough throwing with the products (lot’s of noise).
    At the counter sometimes you cannot chose to pay neutrally because there are just ladies with head scarfs as cashiers. I want to buy neutral, not religious.

    Success with your blog!

    • 14 Erp
      February 9, 2010 at 13:46

      “For example milk products. You hardly can find other brands anymore then their own.”
      -I don’t know in what state you entered the AH cause last time I checked, AH sells: Campina, AH, Zaanse land, and even Alpro soja milk from a different brand. There aren’t that much milk brands left to sell. They even sell Campina milk in a bottle for all the hippies who are against paper packaging…

      “AH is introducing more and more plastic at products. Look at their new invention, the packaging of their own milk with a plastic closing button and at the side the plastic window to see how much is left.”
      -There is nothing wrong with plastic packaging, as long as the companies who dispose of those products do this the right way (i.e. don’t throw it into the sea). AH actually is charged (just like any other company) to sell products in plastic packaging.

      “Then the disaster to find out about products like for example cheese. Nobody at the counter for cheese can give you any information then that on the product.”
      -That’s because there is no more information about it than whats on the packaging. You do know that the disclosure of ingredients etc. is arranged by European legislation, right? You want to know which cow gave you this piece of cheese or what tires the truck who transported the product, used?

      “At the counter sometimes you cannot chose to pay neutrally because there are just ladies with head scarfs as cashiers. I want to buy neutral, not religious.”
      -You see, this is the comment where it all turns out what type of person you are…

      • 15 consumer
        February 9, 2010 at 14:31

        Hoi Erp,
        In the AH store I do my shopping they managed to ban milk from Zaanse Schans even though I still can get that product in other AH stores. It is a competitive thing of course.
        There was a call on all producers to reduce plastic and plastic packaging. Now there are more and more products packed in plastic. I therefore prefer to buy the milk in the paper packaging. As far as I know the big plastic milk bottle is mostly brought by large families (most allochton families).
        Information on products like cheese seems to me a kind of service to the customer – which cheese fits to your dish.
        I indeed prefer to have the possibility to buy and pay neutral and not religious.
        I see nothing strange about that.
        Obviously you are religious. Fine with me as long as you don’t drop it into my face that I am forced to acknowledge the fact that you believe.

        “Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies.” [Thomas Jefferson]
        “If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.” [Voltaire]

        “Religion is based … mainly on fear … fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. … I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race.” [Bertrand Russell, 1872 – 1970, Britse filosoof, historicus, logicus, wiskundige, voorvechter voor sociale vernieuwing, pacifist en een prominent rationalist, ontving in 1950 de Nobelprijs]

  10. 16 Kein
    February 9, 2010 at 12:46

    Last week i bought meat at the AH and the ”granberry pate” i bought was grey and not fresh anymore. 2 weeks ago i bought some “krentebollen” (kind of dutch bread) and there was a piece of blue plastic in it. The same plastic you use to put in your sandwiches.

    I really hate AH, they are too expensive and they are too big! I hate all companies that are too big! Fuck capitalism!

    • 17 Wim Heitinga
      February 9, 2010 at 12:57

      I hate hippies!

    • 18 Erp
      February 9, 2010 at 13:09

      I hate hippies too: fuck hippies!

      • 19 Kein
        February 9, 2010 at 13:15

        Fuck you im not a hippie! I just don’t like big companies that have so many stores that there is no competition anymore. Look at their prices, you pay the same amount in Euros now that you payed in Guldens a few years ago.

        If you go to a supermarket like the Liddl, the people are more friendly and the prices are normal.

      • 20 mark
        February 10, 2010 at 01:08

        still talk about ‘guldens’? come on..
        ofcourse everything is more expensive now. but is has been proven that without the ‘gulden’ everything would be even more expensive.
        you can go on about this forever. my grandma also bought a bread for 20 cents when she was young. things change, so does your income.😉

    • 21 Leo
      February 10, 2010 at 19:27

      Je had de cranberry pate ook niet kunnen kopen. Als je zo kritisch bent op de producten, dan mag ik toch verwachten dat je ondertussen héél goed uit je doppen kijkt voordat je iets in je mandje/karretje gooit.

      En heb je er aan gedacht dat dat stukje plastic in je krentebol er niet expres in is gekomen? En dat die krentebol bij een bakkerij vandaan komt? Die toevallig geen AH heet?

      En als je niets meer noemt tegen de supermarktmanager, dan kan ie het zowiezo niet beter maken…………………….

  11. 22 Appie de Flappie
    February 9, 2010 at 12:47

    Order your bread in Advance! Promblem fixed!

  12. 23 Wim Heitinga
    February 9, 2010 at 12:54

    Hey hou eens op om onder mijn naam te posten!
    -de echte Wim Heitinga-

  13. 24 marc
    February 9, 2010 at 12:54

    Super website. AH Sucks bigtime De AH op de stadionweg in amsterdam is ook zo’n kutwinkel waar nooit iets is dat je nodig hebt. Het ene moment zit er iets in het assortiment dat een week later weer verdwenen is. Lege schappen is een probleem maar alle rommel die er nog over datum ligt is een veel groter probleem. BAH. Ik haal mijn heil bij losse winkeliers en af en toe bij de Super de Boer, TOPWINKEL.

    Zegt het voort. Albert Heijn is een kutwinkel met een arrogante houding.

  14. 25 Erp
    February 9, 2010 at 13:06

    Did it ever concur to you that maybe the stores in Amsterdam have asshole personal cause people from Amsterdam (or any other big Dutch city) are assholes? In the east of the country, people are more polite. Also, I’ve never had any bad experiences with the bread in stores there (maybe a couple of times with stores from the brand ‘COOP’, but most Dutch citizens will agree that this is a bad supermarket chain).

    I’ve also read the reports on the (presumed) low quality of the minced meat. I don’t know if this is supposed to be beef of pork, but from my experience the beef variant is a good product (especially the low fat and / or animal friendly / EKO variants). Since I eat little pork (especially not minded meat since it’s very fat IMO, I wouldn’t know how it’s quality is.

  15. 26 Rzero
    February 9, 2010 at 13:09

    Ik prefereer al jaren de C1000. De Plus is overigens ook niet slecht.

  16. 28 Rick A.
    February 9, 2010 at 13:14

    Doubtful you will leave this, but alas…

    I cannot vouch for the AH shops in Amsterdam, or Rotterdam, but here in Noord Brabant the AH shops are actually rather clean and stocked. Us folks outside the Randstad didn’t realise the abysmal conditions you lot have to live in… empty shelves, nothing to eat but pigeons… very East European at best.

    So i cannot imagine that we cannot start some fund raiser like we did for Haiti. Help the Randstad make it through this winter!

    You get the idea.

  17. 29 Kein
    February 9, 2010 at 13:41

    btw i hate companies that launch marketing adds to recruit and influence children like they do with their soccer cards.

    The problem is that they are taking over the authority parents that should have.

  18. February 9, 2010 at 13:45

    wees een vent er koop er niks
    toch gedaan? smoelen dan!

  19. 31 caudillo
    February 9, 2010 at 14:17

    You don’t like their stuff? Buy at the butcher’s. Buy at the grocer’s.
    Oh you can’t, they’ve closed. They’re out of business. Everyone went to the big supermarket because it was cheaper.
    So now you can only buy cheap products that taste like putty.
    Well, that’s what you get when you always look for the cheapest bargain.
    Which store started the recent price wars? Something with an A, I believe.

    You hate AH?
    I hate it more!
    Down with AH!
    And down with bargain-hunters! (Except when they’re very, very poor. Well, there’s ALDI.)

  20. 32 Dana
    February 9, 2010 at 14:46

    What is your problem?
    Supermarkets throw away tons of good food a year because consumers won’t buy it after a certain time. That’s because we’re so spoiled and out of touch with the whole process that, for example, baking a bread, is like.
    And what’s with the complaining about AH not having bread after a certain time in the first place? You should be happy the shop is still open for you! If you want to actually do something about it, talk to your local authoraties about opening hours for other shops.
    Or you could go to the baker, which opens really early in the morning. Buy some before you go to work, and stuff the rest of your bread in the freezer. You know, making a bit of an effort?
    I’m glad not everyone is like you.

  21. 33 caudillo
    February 9, 2010 at 15:30

    Dana,
    other shops (little ones) can’t stay open till 2200. Not because it’s not allowed (it is), but because they don’t have the staff and can’t work 20 hours a day themselves. There used to be a law that all shops had to close at 1800. This would not work now, but one could make a law that compelled every shop to be open for a limited time, no one shop more than 37,5 hours a week. Choose the hours yourselves. Thus the supermarkets would have less possibility of competing the small shops to death. Another law we used to have forbade the selling of anything below the wholesale price (except during sales time, maximum 2 weeks a year). That would also give more protection to the smaller shops. Thus we would have diversity, and businesses could again compete on the basis of QUALITY, instead of price alone.
    AH is the worst, the most tyrannical, the most obtrusive.
    I hate AH!

    • 34 Dana
      February 9, 2010 at 20:54

      And why does that make AH ‘the most tyrannical, the most obtrusive’. Are you an adult? Or for real?

      As I already stated: The baker’s open when the Albert Heijn isn’t.
      Priorities.


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